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THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED....
DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE
DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICEDAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

1. never thought i would be bullied into agreeing
with the threshold criteria but i was....i held out thank god. DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE
I REFUSED TO SIGN ANYTHING.....

2. i want to let everyone know, that my son will be looked after by fostercarers very soon, i was told that at any point of the integration into the foster family my son refuses to comply. He will be forcefully removed by s/workers and the police.

3. my son told sw twice he didnt want to go, he wanted to stay with me, she totally blanked him out....DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICEDAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

4. i have fought for years for SALT and Occupational assessments in order to ensure the right support for my son within school. I have been refused this, resulting in chronic school refusal and withdrawal from mainstream school as he could not cope in that enviroment.

5. Now i am told my son will recieve SALT and Occupational assessments whilst in fostercare this begs the question why these things were never available whilst he lived with me?DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

6. As many people know, especially if you have knowledge of the autistic spectrum. Forced compliance does not work with these children, and Non-compliance is an associated theme within their make-up usually because of fear or the unknown or change of circumstance.... They are to integrate him back into school. What means they will use to get him their god only knows.....i am told i must share previous strategies with the fostercarers so they may be successful .....They claim if i do as they ask i may have my son back .....(i dont believe them as i do not trust them)

7. The general view is that i am unable to parent my child properly, this is mainly because
NOT ONE PROFESSIONAL THAT ME AND MY SON HAVE COME ACROSS THROUGHOUT THIS NIGHTMARE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ASPERGERS AND HIS OTHER CONDITIONS, and ongoingly refuse to accept his difficulties that have been well documented.DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE
They have picked up on my anxiety regarding my sons difficulties,and this is supposed to constitute emotional harm, apparently projecting my own anxieties onto him.....
If they stepped out of their child abuse mindset, for 2 fluffing minutes, they would realise that my anxiety stems from an intense frustration, i have with narrowminded individuals, who refuse to help my son. As their preference is to shreik child abuse.DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

8. i wish it to be documented that a major injustice is about to befall this family, especially my son. The expert witnesses that have deemed me abusive and recommend my sons removal are consultants without the knoledge of neurological conditions.
Yet their conclusions were felt favourable against the specialist that was actually qualified in all the relavent fields.....

9. I still must work with the same people within the social services that have shown us only suspicion and ignorance, to that effect i fear my son will never return. They actually feel i have taught my son to tic....OMG!!!DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

10. The damage that will be inflicted upon my son within the care system will be immeasurable and irreversible, yet i am told i must encourage my son to go and stay with a family that do not know him.
Unless they persue a course on asd s , they will percieve my sons behaviour as being naughty/bad, when in fact a lot of the things he cannot help..DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

11. My son was diagnosed with aspergers, tourettes and a few overlapping disorders, the specialist was outnumbered by the non-specialists and was concerned his diagnosis would be discredited and in effect he would be discredited. He claimed the only way to ensure my son recieved the assessments he needs was to conceed the diagnosis and agree with the other doctors, that way he would in fact recieve the vital help and support he needs.......but only whilst in fostercare...JUSTICE ??? WHERE....??

Unless someone somewhere can assist me to educate those that are to work with him. He will undoubtably suffer......I cannot express this strongly enough....DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

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our children should not be treated like this,
they are not criminals....

DEDICATED TO MY SON ........MY LIFE AND MY LOVE....



i felt so torn as i knew my son was in fact aspergers and had a very stubborn streak which is described as concrete thinking. Once my sons mind is made up , there is no budging him and the fact was he wanted to stay with me....
DAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE

THE VERY NEXT DAY HE REFUSED TO GO WITH THE FOSTERCARER TO HER HOME.....SHE WAS AFTER ALL A TOTAL STRANGER TO HIM...I PLEADED WITH HIM TO GO, AS I KNEW WHAT THEY HAD THREATENED TO DO.....
BUT EARLIER THAT DAY THE SOCIAL WORKER HAD CALLED OUT TO OUR HOME AND SAW MY SON....
AFTER SHE LEFT MY SON WAS FRUSTRATED AS HE TOLD ME STRAIGHT AWAY THAT HE HAD TOLD HER TWICE HE DIDNT WANT TO GO WITH THE FOSTERCARER BUT SHE TOTALLY IGNORED HIM.........

AUGUST 15TH 2007
THE NIGHT THEY TRIED TO REMOVE MY SON

i was all set for a meeting with everyone monday morning. i needed to tell them there methods just werent going to work....my son would never walk of with a person he had never seen before.... (ss at work....below) DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICEDAY TWO.......A FARCICAL PANTOMIME. - JUSTJUSTICE
mon came sw told me the meeting was cancelled, hadnt a clue why, id worked hard too listing all kinds of suggestions for them....
for the next 2 days they didnt even reply to sol, then wed night a knock at the door,
it was sw with three female police officers, they came into my home with sw and line manager , the social worker said, "you know why we are here dont you miss allen"...our bean ran upstairs and burst into tears.....thats when i lost it.....told them there is no need for this no need for an EPO , he was scared to death.....how could they do this to him.....
i was told to stop getting upset and keep my voice down as i would make him worse.....
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i said hang on a minute, you come into my home to forcefully remove my son , hes scared out of his wits and your asking me to keep it down. My son will know im mighty miffed and so i should be....
DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICE
so there i was with three police in my home two male officers outside , one sw and one manager.
i dont mind admitting i talked my sox off , cried, begged, you name it, as i new the trauma forced removal would inflict on my son..
The police left after about an hour and the ss after another hour......everytime i went to open my mouth the sw kept cutting right across me....i was trying to give them the empirical evidence that was needed to lay this to rest, but just like the way it was in court they had no idea.... IQ lacking i expect as the bad parenting card was played yet again....

i stopped them from enforcing the EPO by telling them about the independant ed psyche tests and of course the fact that the 3 camhs wannabee s had simply assessed con by going down the psychological route, when in fact his difficulties are not psychological they are neurological deeming all three not qualified to specify if con had aspergers etc or not , yet they state in reports he is not....they have no test results whatso ever as they didnt do any, thats how much they knew about my sons difficulties......DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICE

now they are trying to befriend my son, he tells them over and over , i dont want to go, want to stay with my mum....its breaking my heart. the advice is that he complys or will have to be removed and be placed in a secure unit , given high doses of tranquilisers over a few days until he comes around to the idea, and accepts his position.........
SO THIS IS HOW THIS COUNTRY DEALS WITH OUR CHILDREN WHEN THEY WONT CONFORM TO
THERE RULES........I FEEL PHYSICALLY SICK....



UPDATE: 5 WEEKS LATER...
con and myself were introduced to the fostercarers, they live about a mile away and seem pleasant enough.
theyve been f c s for 16yrs and make a point of not getting emotionally attached, they insist for them its just a job.
We met them, what struck me straight away was their lifestyle, loft conversion, garage extension, leather recliners in every room.
Pris teen gardens, idyllic settings, plush carpets and oak wooden floors throughout. Dvds , game consoles, yugioh cards by their thousands stored in big plastic storage boxes, computer games stacked as high as the ceiling, up and downstairs toilet and shower rooms.
I think at this point i thought i had lost my son to the materialistic views we absorbed at every glance.
After all , i could not possibly compete with this luxury, our home being extremely ordinary, extremely lived in and sparse in comparison. I did my best of course, but would that be good enough for my aspergers child and his seemingly self absorbed world he lived in.....
I went home and cried that day , as our battle had turned into one of class and being denied the help and assistance we so desperately needed our livestyle had become sedentary and impoverished. UNFAIR simply wasnt the word.
I think one of the hardest things i had ever done was to go up to what would be my sons new bedroom, and help him pin some photographs of myself and his brother on his wall, it was almost a torturous task, how my emotions remained intact i will never know, but i did it, as the ss would accuse me of undermining the placement if i broke down, consequentially my contact with con could be affected or reduced as a result......


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For 2 wks whilst the FC s were abroad we were given a timetable of activities to do, places to go etc.
I couldnt help but feel this activity filled time we spent together was like our last ....
It was tiring for me i admit but i really enjoyed what we did, despite the tinge of apprehension...
The 2 weeks passed quickly, the FCs were back eager to fulfill there role i guess and why not, its very good money these days, 4-500 a week to care for a child. If they were to give me that money i could transform our lives completely. But why should they do such a sensible thing ?? They must maintain the bulging pockets of the elite, the courts , the experts, the professionals, the social workers etc. and of course the more they delay proceedings, complicate what should be a relatively simple process the more these s**** get paid....the husband is a social worker already working with YOT.

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DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICEWELL WORTH A READ ITS A REAL EYE OPENER.....



My sol and bullying barrister had to go.....
I had to sack their sorry backsides i was livid, my views and wishes had not been
presented before the judge and the only nugget of advise i could get off either one of these incompetant beep beeps was , go with whatever the authority says..........DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICE

good god if that is all they can offer then i would be much better advising myself!!
Now im litigant in person, i will present my own case, if i lose despite all the empirical evidence i have, then it will be on my shoulders....but at least i will be comforted by the thought that i have given it all i have got. Besides it being the focus of my life for the past 4 years.....DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICE
I have a wonderful lady as mckenzie friend so at least i will have someone with me that can also listen to the trash that comes out of the oppositions mouths....

For a couple of weeks connah spent more and more time at the hansel and gretel house.....yes i was happy for him, i had to let him go , let him discover what it was like for himself with the Fc s.....
i should have known that he would resist all that was unfamiliar to him it is after all classic autistic spectrum behaviour.
When the day arrived that he was to move in he managed (THANK GOD) to state very clearly he didnt want to go.....he was pale , anxious, sullen and this was obvious to the line manager.
That coupled with a complaint about the previous EPO and how in fact it was illegal seemed to soften her a tad....
She agreed that con should stay with me but stipulated certain conditions.....SUPRISE SUPRISE.....

1. I must comply with all of the ss plans regarding cons re-integration into secondary school.

2. I must work with childrens services encouraging connah to spend time with fc and stay over twice weekly.

3. connah must comply with above , though still being denied the assessments (speech and language and occupational therapy) that he has been waiting almost 3 years for, the judge himself wanted these assessments done to clarify his difficulties, i am told he will be monitored once in mainstream. I voice my concerns but they fall on very deaf ears, either they are pig ignorant or they actually think im nuts....DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICE

4. Any resistance from connah will be deemed as resistance from me and steps will be taken to SEDATE MY SON BEFORE, they remove him by force for non-compliance.....

Dont they understand he has been refusing school from 6 yrs because he finds certain things difficult and scary, he has told so many professionals now its unreal.But they will not do what is best for con, they prefer to focus on myself as the FII mother............. This will never ever work..........Roll on court.
I now need either an expert that will assess con for no fee, or an expert on the NHS that doesnt need a referal from a doctor as my doc will not refer my son on.....
Or a speach and language and Occupational therapist to assess my son without the outside interference and influence of the SS or LEA.....DAY TWO.....NO JUSTICE. - JUSTJUSTICE


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Anonymous be strong paula.... 0 Aug 13 2007, 1:56 PM EDT by Anonymous
 
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lots of love, hugs and support goes out to you and your family. i pray you get all the help to get your son back where he truly belongs. xxx
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Anonymous Thinking of you at this timexxxxx 0 Aug 12 2007, 12:21 PM EDT by Anonymous
 
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please also visit prisonplanet.com and newscientist.com to really open your eyes
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Anonymous Connor 0 Aug 12 2007, 4:02 AM EDT by Anonymous
 
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Dear Paula

I am really very sorry about your son. You know I was on the same receiving end as you. My marriage has now been destroyed over my son's behaviour as hubbie cannot cope any longer and has found someone else. I wish I could help you but I am dying in myself also. I cannot cope any longer with what I am being told to do about my son. You know me. Please e-mail me audreymartin@talk21.com and i''ll get upir phone number and ring you then. I just don't know what to say except I'm so very sorry for you and no it isn't the right answer with kids who have autistic spectrum disorders. I was accused just like you. Unfortunately it has destroyed me. I have no fight anymore. I just muddle through each day.
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Audrey.xxx
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